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Posted on August 2, 2001
Destroy all of that land; beat down their pillars and break their statues
and waste all of their high places, cleansing the land and dwelling in it.
For I have given it to you for a possession.
Old Testament Numbers 34:52, 53
This argument contains many holes and deficiencies, we're really confused how to respond. It might be effective to answer the question by asking the set of questions below:
ROZEN: "There's the question of the borders, and it cannot be ignored."
BEN-GURION: "Anything is possible. If we decide here that there's to be no mention of borders, then we won't mention them. Nothing is a priori [imperative]."
ROZEN: "It's not a priori, but it is a legal issue."
BEN-GURION: "The law is whatever people determine it to be." (1949, The First Israelis, p. xviii)
If "Eretz Yisrael" would encompass these vast borders, does that imply
the Biblical prophecy?
Does that explain why Israel has invaded and occupied neighboring states?
Since the "Promised Land" includes southern Lebanon, was invading
and occupying Lebanon part of this prophecy?
If the invasion of Lebanon was a fulfillment of this ancient Biblical prophecy,
then was it a prophecy, or a negation of this prophecy, to withdraw from Lebanon?
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There is no question that some of present day Jews are definitely descendents of the prophet Isaac and the prophet Abraham. However, to claim that other people, inclusive of the Palestinian people, are not descendants of Isaac is ridiculous. Either through voluntary or involuntary conversion, the majority of the Semitic Jews had converted, over time, to other religions, such as Christianity and Islam. Results of a DNA study by geneticist Ariella Oppenheim (a famous Israeli geneticist) appears to match historical accounts that Arab Israelis and Palestinians, together as the one same population, represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times", albeit religiously first Christianized then largely Islamized, and all eventually culturally Arabized. Referring to those of the Muslim faith more specifically, it reaffirmed that Palestinian "Muslim Arabs are descended from Christians and Jews who lived in the southern Levant, a region that includes Israel, Sinai and part of Jordan." Geneticist Michael Hammer praised "the study for 'focusing in detail on the Jewish and Palestinian populations.'"
The core of Israel's future problems lies in its crippled democracy (since it empowers people based on their religion). In order for it to survive, Israel has to continuously redefine its definition of "who is a Jew." Its current definition of "who is a Jew" is fluid-since it has been written to suite its domestic political agenda. This racist and crippled "Jewish Democracy" won't last. So if you agree with Israel's current status, then enjoy it while it lasts. Any civilization that bases itself on exclusion, rather than inclusion, sooner or later will self-destruct.
Finally, let's assume that it's a true fact that God made such a "promise" to Abraham's descendants (regardless of whether these descendants were Jews, Arabs, or even of non-Semitic extraction), then it must have been a racist promise-since it was based on the genetic make up of Abraham's heirs. The question which begs to be asked is this:
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Rather than speculate, let’s go to the source: Ezekiel 47:13-23
13: This is what the Sovereign LORD says: "These are the boundaries by which you are to divide the land for an inheritance among the twelve tribes of Israel, with two portions for Joseph. 14: You are to divide it equally among them. Because I swore with uplifted hand to give it to your forefathers, this land will become your inheritance.
Verses 15-20 Concern the specific boundaries of the land.
21: "You are to distribute this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. 22: You are to allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who have settled among you and who have children. You are to consider them as native-born Israelites; along with you they are to be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. 23: In whatever tribe the alien settles, there you are to give him his inheritance," declares the Sovereign LORD.
Ezekiel 47 makes it very clear. The land is an inheritance for the Twelve Tribes of Israel. Aliens are to be given a portion of the inheritance - within the division of land belonging to the Tribe of Israel in which they choose to live. It says nothing about the children of Ishmael having their own state, carved from the land promised the Twelve Tribes of Israel.
Gerald Kaufman, a governing Labour Party British Member of Parliament, declared Thursday that Israel was taking advantage of the guilt many non-Jews feel over the Holocaust to ruthlessly press ahead with its offensive in Gaza.
Kaufman, a frequent critic of Israel who was raised as an Orthodox Jew, sharply criticized Israel in a House of Commons debate on Gaza, saying that "The present Israeli government ruthlessly and cynically exploit the continuing guilt from Gentiles over the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust as justification for their murder of Palestinians."
The MP also commented on the claim that large numbers of the Palestinian victims were militants, saying that "I suppose the Jews fighting for their lives in the Warsaw ghetto could have been dismissed as militants," he said.
Kaufman urged the British government to impose an arms embargo on Israel
I fully agree with you very happily indeed.i challenge the state of Israel to answer these questions
The three religions so similar so diff.
I'm confussed....What is the truth,and only the truth!!
We are all The Creators children!Uphold one God,the God.What ever language or region your from and holy name you give Him,and He will give us the Light(Israel)!
God promised the descendants of the prophet Abraham the 'Promised Land', why are Palestinians defying the Almighty's prophecy?
Anyone asking this question is unaware that the Prophet Muhammad pnuh was indeed a descendant of the prophet Abraham from his son prophet Ismail. Thus Muslims are the descendants of the Prophet Abraham aswell.
COMMENT CONTINUED by L'Afrique .... Israel (the creation of Holy texts) forfeited its "promised land" when it failed to possess as instructed and was also rejected by God in the Old Testament; thus, the teachings of Jesus Christ in the New Testament - I think Israel should move to Antarctica and finally establish a homeland for itself. Israel is indeed a major problem in the Middle East. And as long as Israel continues in its attempt to claim its forfeited promised land, Israel will know nothing but grave and justified oppositions.
Because the Palestinians are also the creation of the Almighty One, and deserving of a homeland. Why not ask why the Almighty One, would rather choose to displace one group of people just to make room for another group, and at a time when more than half of planet earth was uninhabited, and HE, Almighty One, being fully aware of the territorial nature of humankind? I believe Palestinians have the right to enjoy their homeland without constant conflicts with bullying and overbearing Israel. And the fact that nomad Israel is now attempting to finally claim its "promised land" based not on the words of the Almighty, but on the Balfour treaty, even make matters worse.